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Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.10 13:58:00 - [1] I think the real reason you're using an alt to post is so you don't get laughed out of your main's corp for making such poor arguments against a system that has been working nicely for years and is seen by many as one of the strongest points of the game. Skill grinding is found in so many other MMOs and is the reason they become utterly dull. This also seems to be the basis for your assumption that having higher SPs makes characters vastly more powerful than those who have only 1 or 2 million SP. You'll find numerous stories of newer players being able to take down those with a couple of years or more in the game, as well as quite a few stories of those who thought the way to succeed in EVE was to buy a load of GTC, use the ISK to purchase a character from the bazaar along with poorly fit capital ships and cry when they lose them in an instant. Why would such a thing happen if all that mattered was a high number of SP? Player experience, vastly more valuable than skill points.
Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.10 14:39:00 - [2] Originally by: Chesterr theMolester Edited by: Chesterr theMolester on 10/02/2010 14:31:54 Edited by: Chesterr theMolester on 10/02/2010 14:31:34 Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 10/02/2010 14:25:40 Originally by: Chesterr theMolester His arguments are nothing like mine try again please and stop being fail at debating Sure. His points are the same û you just don't have any arguments to back them up because you just want to regurgitate your unfounded nonsense and don't want to debate. If you wanted to debate, you'd have answered a lot more posts than you have now and not just repeated the same thing over and over again. Ok well i am going to have to assume you fail at reading too if you think those two post are anything alike.. And i have made my debate point go get someone to read it out loud for you. And that is where you are going wrong with EVE, you're making assumptions based on prior experiences with other MMOs most likely. You fail utterly in both reading comprehension and debating skills since the only rebuttals I've really seen from you are telling those who are trying to explain why the training system works for EVE is telling them that they fail at one or the other. If you think that EVE fails so badly at being just like all the other games out there, maybe that's what makes it so enjoyable for the rest of us.
Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.10 15:29:00 - [3] If extra SP is the only benefit you see to spending more hours logged in to the game then you're missing out on a lot of what EVE has to offer. You said yourself that you've been involved in some wars with other corps, the experience in pvp is one thing you've gained along with building up solidarity with corp mates (one would hope). Those that run missions gain ISK, LPs and standing, those that explore wormholes can have significant gains from what they find there. Plus you build up relationships with other players, which can prove invaluable, more so than just an extra bunch of SPs. This is an MMO after all and EVE thrives on the complex web of relationships between its players. All this is made much easier because we don't have to waste our precious game time grinding for SPs like some pig snuffling for truffles like a lot of other games. I've abandoned games because they had the skill grind, the lack of such is what drew me to EVE.
Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.11 04:44:00 - [4] Originally by: Chesterr theMolester well as a new player having to dish out 4.5 mil per learning book hits my pockets pretty hard not to mention having to buy a new book for every skill. And back to the isk buying and CCP just because ccp says its right doesn't make it so and this is something that we can get into at a later time in a different location if you wish but this isn't the place for it here. And following everything i say or ask with a question is not proving any valid points. Sorry, utterly wrong, you don't decide what's right and wrong in the game, CCP does. You may not like but if you actually bother to find out why CCP has the GTC and PLEX system then you might see it as part of them combatting isk sellers. So it does make it so. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it wrong. Quote: k so we will talk about things of this nature later on trust but keep it off here.. This is the perfect place to show how ignorant you are, so let's keep it right here.
Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.11 09:20:00 - [5] Originally by: Chesterr theMolester So you come up with a story and have proven nothing what so ever. I could come up with a story much like that but with the out come much much worse. It's funny that after all this talk you have done you come out with this now? Why not post this as your first post and leave it at that? LOL you call me a troll? gtfo of my thread you have failed for the last time. And about the right and wrong this is a much larger topic than I think you could really handle but anyways. First of all you would have to prove that there is a ultimate right and a ultimate wrong A law of good and evil per say to make your point valid. So lets look at the matter at hand CCP allows you to buy isk there for it is right and or good. Just because a higher authority allows such a thing and the popular belief in this community also agrees It doesn't make it any more right then it does wrong. Most of the things you believe to be moral or good are deeply rooted in what you where taught and what you have learned growing up and you have been lead to believe when a higher authority makes something not ill-legal than it makes it moral or right/good acceptable. It is still a matter of Opinion At this point if it is indeed good or bad. Now I am going to open my self up to a bombardment of this is eve not other mmos please save it as it will be ignored and the example I'm giving is necessary to keep my argument relevant to the topic at hand. If you buy in game currency in any way shape or form in WOW,EQ,L2 ect ect it is a bannable Offense just like in eve is you buy from a isk seller you will be ban. How ever if you buy it from CCP its perfectly ok why is it right to buy from ccp but not from a isk seller? Because ccp says so ? No wrong in my opinion is is wrong in every sense no matter what means you take to the same end. The end result is your still buying isk. And this is what the term Hypocrite means. Without getting into detail here anyone interested in this pointless argument and if you recall i did say this was not the time and or place for it but some people want to be ignorant so now we are at is. I would like you to tell me what Falsification is if you don't know do not bother getting involved here. to those that do know again lets take back to buying ISK from ccp as being acceptable but only if you buy form them and in turn makes it not a bad thing to do. We can make a model in which buying isk is bad IE: you buy from a isk seller we can come up with many reasons why this is indeed bad Those results would then have to transfer over to buying isk from ccp and the end result would be the same and one can conclude that doing so is still bad, the only thing that has happened here is a higher authority has come and made it acceptable but only if you do it using them as your means to the same end of buying isk vs. a isk seller. This would be like buying crack from a crack dealer is bad but the courts just passed a law to make it legal to buy crack from them but still ill-legal to buy from the crack dealer. Now most everyone would agree that it is still bad except for in the minds of the crack users. But in the end it still comes down to a matter of opinion you could argue. The vast majority of us are not crack users so we would see it as bad so like I said before the majority and or ruling of a higher authority does nothing in this case of proving what is right and what is wrong. So when you ask me who am i to say it's wrong to buy isk when ccp says it's ok if you didn't understand anything you just read do not bother responding When you enter in a cheat code into a ps3 game that grants you extra money is it still not cheating even though it is allowed in the game? What a self righteous load of crap. This has to be a troll
Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.12 15:32:00 - [6] He's just butthurt because EVE actually caters to casual players as well as 'hardcore' players like he imagines he is. He doesn't like the fact that people with lives and jobs can actually progress and enjoy the game without having to be uber like he sees himself. Living in Evemon and EFT does not make you a hardcore player, going out and learning the finer points of the game is what makes you better at playing. There are players with barely a million skill points that could take down much older characters because the went out and spent a bit of time testing their ship fits in the field and learning from mistakes rather than staring at EFT all day.
Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.14 01:05:00 - [7] Originally by: Trader20 All u old players just got trolled, look who's the noobies now When you can actually type english instead of text speak, then we might consider you as more than a 12 year old. Does mummy know you're using her account?
Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.15 05:39:00 - [8] Originally by: Chesterr theMolester See now that noone has been able to tell me why it would be such a big deal to allow newer players to close a total SP gap I now know what it really is. its your damn ego thats why you hate thi sidea so much. Not one of you has given me a reason a real reason to why its such a bad idea what would it do to the game how would it effect the current staus of the game. If they implemented said plan ccp couldnt handle the pay load so they sucker people into the game untill they realize what i have and quit . that is how ccp keeps going. That and making it almost a need to have more than one account. Yes, that's obviously CCP's business model. Well done 'Ding' you have reached 80th level forum troll. I wish I'd seen it earlier, it's all so obvious really.
Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.16 11:43:00 - [9] Originally by: Chesterr theMolester Quote: [CITATION OF STATISTICS NEEDED] I don't need to prove anything it's common knowledge If you can use it so can I think i know what your issue is .. You fail at life you got a fail job and your only success is in eve so you are going to try to ravage anyone who threatens to take that away from you. Me on the other hand like irl if i see something i want i go after it and get it. I know my self i am 29 I've owned my home for 6 years and my own business for 8 My older brother who is 34 has owned his own home for 10 and his own business for 12 Both have owned new cars since we where 18 I think it is either my myspace page or my facebook that has me cars and home on them i could post up a link to my 2400 sq ft home if you wish.. I think I see the problem here, overachiever who feels entitled to anything he can grab. He obviously sees games as another way to further flaunt his ambition, a true epeen waver. Fair enough, you did well with your business, nothing wrong with that, but in the end EVE is just a game. And if you think we're all such losers why are you playing the same game as we do? I wonder if your corp mates realise you view those around you with such contempt.
Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.16 12:34:00 - [10] Originally by: Chesterr theMolester Originally by: Elohllird Originally by: Chesterr theMolester Quote: [CITATION OF STATISTICS NEEDED] I don't need to prove anything it's common knowledge If you can use it so can I think i know what your issue is .. You fail at life you got a fail job and your only success is in eve so you are going to try to ravage anyone who threatens to take that away from you. Me on the other hand like irl if i see something i want i go after it and get it. I know my self i am 29 I've owned my home for 6 years and my own business for 8 My older brother who is 34 has owned his own home for 10 and his own business for 12 Both have owned new cars since we where 18 I think it is either my myspace page or my facebook that has me cars and home on them i could post up a link to my 2400 sq ft home if you wish.. lol just lol Don't hate just because your still living in moms basement at the age of 35 and working as a bag boy at your local market. If, as you claim, your main is in a corp, I reckon there may be some money to be made if someone discovered the identity of your main, I'm sure a few people might pay for that info

Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.16 14:14:00 - [11] Edited by: Samantha U on 16/02/2010 14:14:22 Originally by: Riedle Originally by: Chesterr theMolester Quote: [CITATION OF STATISTICS NEEDED] I don't need to prove anything it's common knowledge If you can use it so can I think i know what your issue is .. You fail at life you got a fail job and your only success is in eve so you are going to try to ravage anyone who threatens to take that away from you. Me on the other hand like irl if i see something i want i go after it and get it. I know my self i am 29 I've owned my home for 6 years and my own business for 8 My older brother who is 34 has owned his own home for 10 and his own business for 12 Both have owned new cars since we where 18 I think it is either my myspace page or my facebook that has me cars and home on them i could post up a link to my 2400 sq ft home if you wish.. This just in - Chester is a young Donald Trump In Real Life(TM) More at 11! Yes, at 11, puberty might start kicking in and he'll end up with a lovely couple of black eyes when his balls drop

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